<div dir="ltr">Chris,<br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Christopher Gilroy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.gilroy@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.gilroy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hey Wesley,<div><br></div><div>Yea I found the WMO discipline cat's, very informative. While I can't find real specfics on what the current highest-resolution GFS data is, from the little bit I've been learning the sflux is? I don't believe sflux and pgrb2.0p25 are the same resolution?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The GFS model makes an sflux file at the native Gaussian grid (highest resolution).<br></div><div>Sometimes another jobs can take this highest resolution Gaussian grid and convert<br></div><div>it to lower resolution Gaussian grid files for jobs that want a lower resolution file.<br></div><div>The original sflux resolution will change with the model resolution.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The pgrb2.0p25 == pgrb2 0p25 now p -> decimal point<br></div><div> pressure-grib2 0.25-degree lat-lon grid<br></div><div> This file will always be 0.25 x 0.25 degree lat-lon grid.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the descriptive info on the two vars. They seemed the same to me, but with the descriptions being a tad different and the disciplines being different I didn't think they were identical.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>They should be the same physical field except for a change in the grid and perhaps<br></div><div>a change in the timing. I wouldn't be surprised if the sflux file goes to the more modern<br></div><div>tsoil name. WMO has deprecated many variables which are in the wrong discipline.<br><br></div><div>Wesley<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Wesley Ebisuzaki - NOAA Federal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wesley.ebisuzaki@noaa.gov" target="_blank">wesley.ebisuzaki@noaa.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<br><br>tmp0_10cm is the temperature 0-10 cm below the land surface (discipline=meteorological product)<br>tsoil0_10cm is the soil temperature 0-10 cm below the land surface (discipline=land surface product)<br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Logically both variables refer to the same quantity. Originally people used the 1st name because <br>the 2nd name wasn't defined. Later the standard defined temperature for land-surface, oceanographic,<br>hydrological and space-weather products. So the 2nd name is more descriptive and the<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">the new preferred name. The "0,0,0" vs "2,0.2" is because the encoding of the two names are<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">different (discipline, parameter category and parameter number).<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">sflux = special flux, usually on (model) Gaussian grid<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">pgrb2 = pressure (level) grib2 (often includes contents of sflux file), usually on a lat-lon grid<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Wesley<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Christopher Gilroy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.gilroy@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.gilroy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hey guys, learning grads (let alone model data) and I'm trying to figure out the difference between:<div><br></div><div>sflux: <br clear="all"><div><div>tmp0_10cm 0,106,0,0.1 0,0,0 ** 0-0.1 m below ground Temperature [K]</div><div>tmp10_40cm 0,106,0.1,0.4 0,0,0 ** 0.1-0.4 m below ground Temperature [K]</div><div>tmp40_100cm 0,106,0.4,1 0,0,0 ** 0.4-1 m below ground Temperature [K]</div><div>tmp100_200cm 0,106,1,2 0,0,0 ** 1-2 m below ground Temperature [K]</div></div><div><br></div><div>pgrb2:</div><div><div>tsoil0_10cm 0,106,0,0.1 2,0,2 ** 0-0.1 m below ground Soil Temperature [K]</div><div>tsoil10_40cm 0,106,0.1,0.4 2,0,2 ** 0.1-0.4 m below ground Soil Temperature [K]</div><div>tsoil40_100cm 0,106,0.4,1 2,0,2 ** 0.4-1 m below ground Soil Temperature [K]</div><div>tsoil100_200cm 0,106,1,2 2,0,2 ** 1-2 m below ground Soil Temperature [K]</div></div><div><br></div><div>They somewhat look the same, but the third set of number 0,0,0 and 2,0,2 are different obviously, so outside of what "differences" there are between the 2, can anyone explain what the 0,0,0 and 2,0,2 actually means?</div><div><br></div><div>Secondly, what exactly (maybe why they have so many different types is better) is the difference between the gfs sflux files and the gfs pgrb2 files? I know the sflux files don't have all the var's that the pgrb2 files have but the sflux is the highest resolution data available, for the GFS, correct?</div><div><br></div><div>I appreciate any help.</div><div><br>Thanks!<br></div>
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