<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Eduardo.<div><br></div><div>I am also respectful in my reply. However, the fact that there is a valid need does not justify the taking of someone else's intellectual property. And, I'm sorry, but I don't understand in what sense this is a private email. This is a listserv that is public, to my knowledge, and not intended for the illegal distribution of copyrighted works. </div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps something could be done to approach the authors and ask for a copy as we do with papers but distributing someone else's work is a misuse of the Internet and leads to legislation that interferes with the free exchange of ideas and communication between colleagues. The short-term needs, as real as they are, can have long-term negative consequences.</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; 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"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="font-family: Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Cheers.</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; ">--------------</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; ">John Helly, University of California, San Diego</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; ">San Diego Supercomputer Center, Mail Code 0527</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; ">Scripps Institution of Oceanography, Climate, Atmospheric Science, and Physical Oceanography, Mail Code 0224 </div><div>9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla CA 92093</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; ">+01 760 840 8660 mobile / stonesteps (Skype) / stonesteps7 (iChat) / URL (<a href="http://www.sdsc.edu/~hellyj">http://www.sdsc.edu/~hellyj</a>)</span></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></div></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Eduardo Agosta Scarel wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>First, I apologize to what I am about to say:</div><div><br></div>In many countries we are in need to get the books and softwares in that way (free downloaded) because we really do not have enough support to buy them at the cost they actually are. <div> <br></div><div>Likewise, the information was spread within a private email link I think, so, only people within the field, and who are in need, could be get benefit from it....<div><br></div><div>Of course things should be different, but they have been established like this...I respect copyrights and many times what is legal is not fair when money is little.<div> <br></div><div>I beg your pardon, this is my rude opinion and sad experience.</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div><br></div><div>Eduardo.</div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/10/29 Helly John J. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hellyj@ucsd.edu">hellyj@ucsd.edu</a>></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I agree with Alan. I haven't downloaded them to see if they are<br> copyrighted but if they are, this is definitely inappropriate and<br> illegal. If you are using US Govt-funded computing resources to<br> download these, that is also an inappropriate use of those resources.<br> <br> Cheers.<br> --------------<br> John Helly, University of California, San Diego<br> San Diego Supercomputer Center, Mail Code 0527<br> Scripps Institution of Oceanography, Climate, Atmospheric Science, and<br> Physical Oceanography, Mail Code 0224<br> 9500 Gilman Dr., La Jolla CA 92093<br> +01 760 840 8660 mobile / stonesteps (Skype) / stonesteps7 (iChat) /<br> URL (<a href="http://www.sdsc.edu/~hellyj" target="_blank">http://www.sdsc.edu/~hellyj</a>)<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Oct 29, 2008, at 8:35 AM, Alan Robock wrote:<br> <br> Dear Dr. Jayakrishnan,<br> <br> Aren't these books copyrighted? How can you provide them for free? Did<br> the publishers and authors give you permission?<br> <br> Alan<br> <br> Alan Robock, Professor II<br> Director, Meteorology Undergraduate Program<br> Associate Director, Center for Environmental Prediction<br> Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-732-932-9800 x6222<br> Rutgers University Fax: +1-732-932-8644<br> 14 College Farm Road E-mail: <a href="mailto:robock@envsci.rutgers.edu" target="_blank">robock@envsci.rutgers.edu</a><br> New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551 USA <a href="http://envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock" target="_blank">http://envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock</a><br> <br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> From: Jayakrishnan PR <<a href="mailto:prjayakrishnan@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">prjayakrishnan@GMAIL.COM</a>><br> To: <a href="mailto:GRADSUSR@LIST.CINECA.IT" target="_blank">GRADSUSR@LIST.CINECA.IT</a><br> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:30:40 AM<br> Subject: Good E-books in Dynamic meteorology and remote sensing....<br> <br> Dear Grads Users,<br> Here is the link for some very good e-books in the field of<br> Dynamic meteorology and remote sensing. If you want you can download<br> them also. Also you can find some good e-books on Linux OS and shell<br> scripting. Kindly have a look on them.<br> <br> <a href="http://www.4shared.com/dir/9430364/6c58a50/sharing.html" target="_blank">http://www.4shared.com/dir/9430364/6c58a50/sharing.html</a><br> <br> <br> --<br> Sincerely<br> ***********************************************<br> Jayakrishnan.P.R<br> CSIR-Research Fellow<br> Department of Atmospheric Sciences<br> Cochin University of Science and Technology (CUSAT), Cochin-682 016<br> Kerala, India.<br> Mob: 09895417565<br> <br> ***********************************************<br> <br> </blockquote> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br> </div></div></div></div></div><br></div></body></html>