[gradsusr] Question about why the wind vectors barbs not showing up for the 0-6 KM Shear difference
Nimrod Micael
nmicael at aggies.ncat.edu
Mon Sep 2 13:08:37 EDT 2013
Perfect. Just to verify I am doing the right procedure:
zinterp(u,height,6)
'u6km=interp'
zinterp(v,height,6)
'v6km=interp'
'shear0006=1.94*mag(u6km-u10,v6km-v10)'
'set gxout shaded'
'set cmin 20'
'set clevs 20 30 40 50 60'
'set ccols 0 3 7 8 2 6'
'd shear0006'
'ushear= u6km-u10'
'vshear= v6km-v10'
'set gxout barb'
'set cmin 20'
'set arrlab off'
'set clopts -1 -1 0.14'
'set arrscl 5'
'd skip(ushear*1.94,40,40);skip(vshear*1.94,40,40)'
Thanks Jeff you are awesome! :)
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jeff Duda <jeffduda319 at gmail.com> wrote:
> You're still only displaying a scalar quantity. You need to display the
> shear components separated by a ; to get the barbs to appear.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Nimrod Micael <nmicael at aggies.ncat.edu>wrote:
>
>> oh u10 and v10 is
>> u10 1 0 U at 10 M (m s-1)
>> v10 1 0 V at 10 M (m s-1)
>> respectively.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Nimrod Micael <nmicael at aggies.ncat.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> Actually I think I fixed the problem but still didnt get the wind barb...
>>>
>>> zinterp(u,height,6)
>>> 'u6km=interp'
>>> zinterp(v,height,6)
>>> 'v6km=interp'
>>> 'shear0006=1.94*mag(u6km-u10,v6km-v10)'
>>> 'set gxout shaded'
>>> 'set cmin 20'
>>> 'd shear0006'
>>>
>>>
>>> 'set gxout barb'
>>> 'set cmin 20'
>>> 'd shear0006'
>>>
>>>
>>> What's going on?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Nimrod Micael <nmicael at aggies.ncat.edu>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh my model height is in KM though. Hence why 6 KM and not 600 meters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Nimrod Micael <nmicael at aggies.ncat.edu>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The interpolation is not working for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did this:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'umid=zinterp(u,height,6)'
>>>>> 'vmid=zinterp(v,height,6)'
>>>>> 'ulow="zinterp(u,height,0)'
>>>>> 'vlow="zinterp(v,height,0)'
>>>>> 'verticalshear =(umid-ulow)+(vmid-vlow)'
>>>>> 'bulkshear=sqrt(verticalshear)'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Still not getting anything after many tries.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Nimrod Micael <
>>>>> nmicael at aggies.ncat.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ohhhhh @Jeff...I see what you are saying...there's an angle to the
>>>>>> direction of the winds...you cant assume that both levels are in the same
>>>>>> direction. That makes perfect sense. Very excellent explanation by the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Jeff Duda <jeffduda319 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest you have a look through this page (
>>>>>>> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/VectorAddition.html) and the related
>>>>>>> page linked under "see also" called "vector difference". You can
>>>>>>> add/subtract two vectors by adding/subtracting the corresponding *
>>>>>>> components* (i.e., the u and v components), and making a vector of
>>>>>>> the resulting sum/difference. What you seem to be stuck on is taking the
>>>>>>> difference of the *magnitude* of the vectors rather than the
>>>>>>> difference of the components.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll use this example to help illustrate this. Suppose you had a
>>>>>>> westerly wind at 500 mb of 50 kts, and an easterly wind of 50 kts at the
>>>>>>> surface (unlikely except for possibly within a severe thunderstorm, but
>>>>>>> just bear with me). There is no difference in the wind speed between 500
>>>>>>> mb and the sfc, but there is a difference in the direction. Clearly there
>>>>>>> is shear, but only if you look at the component form of the wind. The u-
>>>>>>> and v-components of the 500 mb wind in this example are u = 50, v = 0
>>>>>>> (kts), whereas at the surface, the components are u = -50, v = 0 (kts).
>>>>>>> Therefore, the shear is given by (u500-usfc)*i* + (v500-vsfc)*j* =
>>>>>>> (50 - -50)*i* + (0-0)*j* = 100*i* + 0*j*. The shear vector is
>>>>>>> straight out of the west here. The magnitude is given by sqrt(ushear^2 +
>>>>>>> vshear^2), which is sqrt(100^2 + 0^2) = 100 kts of shear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Nimrod Micael
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Nimrod Micael
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Nimrod Micael
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