[gradsusr] GFS Precipitation

[Sergey Varlamov]

Eric,

Thank you for these details as it could be important for our
applications as well.
I am sometimes using GFS data for forcing of regional ocean models.
Normally I use data from the
http://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.{y}{m}{d}{h}/gfs.t{h}z.sfluxgrbf{f}.grib2
with {X} replaced with numbers for year, month etc.
In terms of wgrib2 I use for estimation of precipitation "PRATE:surface"
parameter.
I assume that, independently of the forecast lead time,
it is precipitation rate estimated at the  model surface,
not an accumulated precipitation that you mention.

However, if I start to use other GFS products it will need to be aware
of the peculiarity that you mention...

In this relation, could you give a reference to the source of your
information
on the definition of GFS accumulated precipitation?

By the way, Japan Meteorological Agency global product
provides precipitation accumulated from the start of forecasting
(over 6h, then over 12h etc. as forecast time is increasing).
So precipitation is all time a pain for utilization.

Sincerely yours,

Sergey Varlamov


Eric Altshuler wrote:
> Adrian,
>
> GFS total accumulated precip (apcpsfc) includes all forms of precipitation that reaches the surface during the accumulation period. For forecast hours evenly divisible by 6, the accumulation period is from T-6h to T, while for other forecast hours (divisible by 3 but not 6) it is from T-3h to T.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Eric L. Altshuler
> Assistant Research Scientist
> Center for Ocean-Land-Atmosphere Studies
> 4041 Powder Mill Road, Suite 302
> Calverton, MD 20705-3106
> USA
>
> E-mail: ela at cola.iges.org
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian Scherzinger" <adrian.scherzinger at meteotest.ch>
> To: gradsusr at gradsusr.org
> Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 7:19:57 AM
> Subject: [gradsusr] GFS Precipitation
>
> Hi
>
> I have a question about total precipitation in GFS. I got cunfused when 
> I was looking at precipitation forecast in high altitudes (Himalaya):
>
> Does the accumulated precipitation at surface (apcpsfc) include solid 
> precipitation (e.g snow, graupel)? Or do I have to include other 
> parameters like Accumulated Snow to get the real total precipitation?
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
> Adrian
>
>   
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Sergey Varlamov

Research Institute for Global Change
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